The band has not survived. After 20 years, you're one fake reunion past losing my loyalty. Good riddance to you, as well... I don't need the energy of your poser band around me, scarring the legacy of the real Smashing Pumpkins.
I don't get people like you. scarring the legacy of the real Smashing Pumpkins
There are new people, and old people are missing, but the main members are still there. How can you praise him for one song and hate him for another? This shit just doesn't make any sense. This legacy you speak of was created by the same person you're denouncing.
I don't see it that way at all. Also, so what if he happened to not have respect? I don't see why people think they deserve something from musicians or artists. Why can't you just be grateful that they made music in the first place and allowed everyone to be a part of it?
Would you go up to a person on the street and demand their undying respect and loyalty? Would you tell them how to run their lives, or how they should produce their art?
If Billy Corgan said fuck you to every single one of his fans, I'd still like his music. I'd still fondly remember being 13 and running for the bus in the snow, clutching my brand new copy of Mellon Collie.
You don't know him personally and he doesn't owe you or anyone anything. Even then, the point is he didn't say anything disrespectful.
I understand your need to keep saying this, but frankly I think you said this back when Zeitgeist was first released.
After all you had said back then I actually went to your concert here in Australia expecting to hear none of the old songs and was extremely happy that I did get to experience some of the songs I loved as a teenager live on stage.
Use those energies to write more songs, play more music and do anything else that makes you happy. We don't need clarification after clarification. Zeitgeist has its space next to Gish, SD, MCIS and all the rest and I don't think of any of them as valued any higher over the other. I am just happy to hear more from the Smashing Pumpkins and to see that your new album is doing well and will not be relegated to the "attempted comeback" drawer of history.
People will never understand you. You bust your ass for years to produce something meaningful, and selfish people will still complain.
Obviously I fell in love with the band's old music, but that's because that's all there was at the time. While I will always look back fondly on everything, I can also appreciate the present and the future.
Of all the albums I've bought in my life, the only ones I can specifically remember buying were the ones by the Pumpkins. I can remember what the weather was like, and who I was with.
It probably seems silly, but I remember my hands shaking from the excitement. My mother was a born again Christian so I had to hide all my music, but once everyone went to bed, I went into my closet to pull them out and listened to them all night.
The most miserable years of my life were a little better because of your music. How can anyone not be grateful for that?
That's great, but unfortunately the old songs are just BETTER than the new ones. Sorry buddy :)
This is exactly how I feel. I'd be perfectly happy to hear new material over old material, if it stood anywhere near in quality.
I don't really agree with the idea that the band 'owes' it to fans to play old songs; buying a ticket is a risk WHOEVER you go to see, and you're never guaranteed a setlist you want. But I do agree that if the band wants to leave the past behind them, perhaps a name change is a better idea. Then they wouldn't have to constantly confront all these expectations to play old material and lots of hits. I get that they want to do what they want to do, and it's fine, but not everyone is going to think that the new stuff stands alongside the old stuff in quality, and I don't think they deserve to be shunned for that opinion. We can be fans and still apply some critical thinking to their work.
opinions are like assholes. everyone has one. and that's fine and dandy.
but for a change, try and put yourself in someone else's shoes.
"Q So "Zeitgeist" was the last album?
A We're done with that. There is no point. People don't even listen to it all. They put it on their iPod, they drag over the two singles and skip over the rest."
So I must be the only person on the planet who, after falling into the album over a year after it was released, listens to Zeitgeist habitually and completely.
Last year in Phoenix the band opened with United States, and I thought, "Wow, I can't believe they're playing my favorite song first." Ya just never know. I think Zeitgeist was the best album since OK Computer. Stay fresh and keep up the great work.
...And I always said that I would follow wichever direction you take, musically. So You can't say that I'm not a loyal fan...
Man. It's gotta be so annoying dealing with all the lame-o haters on a daily basis. Kudos to you and SP for being able to keep some sanity and THANK you for doing your own thang.
As for the playing old songs, i would be so thrilled if you guys actually played a concert near me you guys could sing twinkle twinkle little star and i'd be the highlight of my year. ;p Kids in big cities take for granted the fact they get to see their favorite musicians at all. Silly, silly.
Who cares about the stupid fucking fans and what they want. People are selfish assholes, across the board.. including me, Billy Corgan, and your fucking mailman. Music and art are transcendent. I don't care if he never performs an old song again, just as long as he continues to create. Just as long as he stays true to his vision. It's a truly unique vision that more people should just give some thought. It takes courage to stand in front of that ocean of assholes, to keep performing even though people aren't going to get it. I respect that.
Besides, one day they'll all be old songs. =)
2009-03-24 04:56 pm (UTC)
Dude, I'm going have to ask you to not talk shit about my mailman.