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Clarification from my interview with Greg Kot in the Chicago Tribune. [Dec. 9th, 2008|11:16 pm]
Billy Corgan
I enjoyed talking to Greg. He is a very well-liked and respected writer, and outside of one small misquote (I don't recall saying we needed to write songs like '1999'. I think I said '1979'), the interview is an accurate potrayal of my feelings. But let's be clear here. I never said I would never play any old songs ever again. That's just drama if that's what people hear, or want to hear. What I've said is that we aren't going to play most of those old songs any more because it locks us into permanent reunion band mode, and we are over it. For some fans to be upset at a band that plays 48 songs over 2 nights, the great majority of which are old, shows you the level of insanity we deal with. The word is called entitled. If they are entitled to demand, we are entilted to be who we are without reservation. There is no apology in that. We feel good, happy, and strong, and that should be the story here. Nobody owns us. We own us. Where is the happy ending of 'the band that once self-destructed is back and playing great and is looking forward to the future?'

If you come see us on some crazy big tour you will hear a few familiar songs, because that is the right forum for it. But it certainly won't be the main focus. When we play small venues we won't be playing those songs pretty much at all cause that won't be the place for it anymore. But that doesn't mean we are even gonna play at all. It doesn't make sense to some now and we understand and we are ok with those that leave because they are stuck in some year from a different decade. We'll be fine without them. Thanks, and goodbye. Just remember us when we say 'I told you so'. Because we are on our way back, and that's that. (Insert smiley face right fucking here). As I said to some fans, if after 20 years we are one song, or one show away from losing your loyalty, good riddance then. We don't need that energy around us.

Our message has been consistent: don't ask us to do or be anything that will once again lead to the death of the band. The band's survival comes first. We can debate aesthetics and marketing platforms later. If you want us to fall away, fade away like some dust and relics it aint gonna happen. We are here to stay. We deserve to be here, and are proud of what we have gotten right thru the years. And we are truly grateful to those fans that trust us like family. The kind of extended family where you can make a mistake, say something not quite the right way, and still be welcomed home. There will never be anything wrong with flying too close to the sun.

God bless everybody here, BC
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[User Picture]From: pmppk
2008-12-10 07:46 am (UTC)
The band has not survived. After 20 years, you're one fake reunion past losing my loyalty. Good riddance to you, as well... I don't need the energy of your poser band around me, scarring the legacy of the real Smashing Pumpkins.
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[User Picture]From: sprawl
2008-12-10 09:53 am (UTC)
I don't get people like you. scarring the legacy of the real Smashing Pumpkins


There are new people, and old people are missing, but the main members are still there. How can you praise him for one song and hate him for another? This shit just doesn't make any sense. This legacy you speak of was created by the same person you're denouncing.
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[User Picture]From: sxyblkmn
2008-12-10 08:14 am (UTC)
i can dig it :)
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[User Picture]From: sprawl
2008-12-10 09:45 am (UTC)
I don't see it that way at all. Also, so what if he happened to not have respect? I don't see why people think they deserve something from musicians or artists. Why can't you just be grateful that they made music in the first place and allowed everyone to be a part of it?

Would you go up to a person on the street and demand their undying respect and loyalty? Would you tell them how to run their lives, or how they should produce their art?


If Billy Corgan said fuck you to every single one of his fans, I'd still like his music. I'd still fondly remember being 13 and running for the bus in the snow, clutching my brand new copy of Mellon Collie.

You don't know him personally and he doesn't owe you or anyone anything. Even then, the point is he didn't say anything disrespectful.
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[User Picture]From: metanoia_cw
2008-12-10 09:03 am (UTC)
I understand your need to keep saying this, but frankly I think you said this back when Zeitgeist was first released.

After all you had said back then I actually went to your concert here in Australia expecting to hear none of the old songs and was extremely happy that I did get to experience some of the songs I loved as a teenager live on stage.

Use those energies to write more songs, play more music and do anything else that makes you happy. We don't need clarification after clarification. Zeitgeist has its space next to Gish, SD, MCIS and all the rest and I don't think of any of them as valued any higher over the other. I am just happy to hear more from the Smashing Pumpkins and to see that your new album is doing well and will not be relegated to the "attempted comeback" drawer of history.

Merry Christmas
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[User Picture]From: common_nocturne
2008-12-11 11:52 am (UTC)
Fucking well said!
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[User Picture]From: sprawl
2008-12-10 10:20 am (UTC)
People will never understand you. You bust your ass for years to produce something meaningful, and selfish people will still complain.

Obviously I fell in love with the band's old music, but that's because that's all there was at the time. While I will always look back fondly on everything, I can also appreciate the present and the future.

Of all the albums I've bought in my life, the only ones I can specifically remember buying were the ones by the Pumpkins. I can remember what the weather was like, and who I was with.

It probably seems silly, but I remember my hands shaking from the excitement. My mother was a born again Christian so I had to hide all my music, but once everyone went to bed, I went into my closet to pull them out and listened to them all night.

The most miserable years of my life were a little better because of your music. How can anyone not be grateful for that?
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[User Picture]From: mr_absence
2008-12-10 10:34 am (UTC)
That's great, but unfortunately the old songs are just BETTER than the new ones. Sorry buddy :)
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[User Picture]From: katura
2008-12-10 11:35 am (UTC)
This is exactly how I feel. I'd be perfectly happy to hear new material over old material, if it stood anywhere near in quality.
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[User Picture]From: katura
2008-12-10 11:40 am (UTC)
I don't really agree with the idea that the band 'owes' it to fans to play old songs; buying a ticket is a risk WHOEVER you go to see, and you're never guaranteed a setlist you want. But I do agree that if the band wants to leave the past behind them, perhaps a name change is a better idea. Then they wouldn't have to constantly confront all these expectations to play old material and lots of hits. I get that they want to do what they want to do, and it's fine, but not everyone is going to think that the new stuff stands alongside the old stuff in quality, and I don't think they deserve to be shunned for that opinion. We can be fans and still apply some critical thinking to their work.
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[User Picture]From: litzaaztil
2008-12-10 01:06 pm (UTC)
opinions are like assholes. everyone has one. and that's fine and dandy.

but for a change, try and put yourself in someone else's shoes.

and think.

just think.
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[User Picture]From: litzaaztil
2008-12-10 01:29 pm (UTC)
also..

"Q So "Zeitgeist" was the last album?

A We're done with that. There is no point. People don't even listen to it all. They put it on their iPod, they drag over the two singles and skip over the rest."

So I must be the only person on the planet who, after falling into the album over a year after it was released, listens to Zeitgeist habitually and completely.

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[User Picture]From: walterzuey
2008-12-10 02:25 pm (UTC)
Last year in Phoenix the band opened with United States, and I thought, "Wow, I can't believe they're playing my favorite song first." Ya just never know. I think Zeitgeist was the best album since OK Computer. Stay fresh and keep up the great work.
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[User Picture]From: babybill
2008-12-10 03:52 pm (UTC)
Amen, Billy
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[User Picture]From: babybill
2008-12-10 03:57 pm (UTC)
...And I always said that I would follow wichever direction you take, musically. So You can't say that I'm not a loyal fan...
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[User Picture]From: om_shakti
2008-12-10 04:24 pm (UTC)
Man. It's gotta be so annoying dealing with all the lame-o haters on a daily basis. Kudos to you and SP for being able to keep some sanity and THANK you for doing your own thang.

As for the playing old songs, i would be so thrilled if you guys actually played a concert near me you guys could sing twinkle twinkle little star and i'd be the highlight of my year. ;p Kids in big cities take for granted the fact they get to see their favorite musicians at all. Silly, silly.
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